Poor Diablo (18 comments)
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Poor Diablo
posted Friday, October 11, 2002 - 12:55 AM (#2220)
Turns out hes a Stan worshipper. Also, did anyone notice that Evil Jon turned into regular Jon in mid-strip?
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Re: Poor Diablo (Score: 2, Insightful)
posted Friday, October 11, 2002 - 06:02 AM (#2222)
But in that case, how did he get his head restored after being chopped off, several times? I reckon Stan is in fact Satan, and Jon is being very well deceived... I was particularly impressed by the subtle use of silhouettes to make Stan's hairstyle look just enough like horns from behind the first time we see him.
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Re: Poor Diablo (Score: 3, Informative)
posted Friday, October 11, 2002 - 08:30 AM (#2224)
Also, did anyone notice that Evil Jon turned into regular Jon in mid-strip?

He took his jacket off. A jacket does not make one evil.
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Re: Poor Diablo (Score: 2, Funny)
posted Friday, October 11, 2002 - 09:22 AM (#2225)
In Response to jon (#2224):

Depends on the jacket.

A uniform jacket for the SS used to make one evil - these days it just marks one as pathetic.

Of course, it goes the other way, too. Some people make any jacket they wear evil, like El Shrubbo, or Michael Jackson.
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Re: Poor Diablo (Score: 1)
posted Friday, October 11, 2002 - 11:29 AM (#2232)
In Response to jon (#2224):

I guess that would make sense. I just noticed how in the 4th strip, he was no longer wearing a black coat...
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Re: Poor Diablo (Score: 1)
posted Friday, October 11, 2002 - 12:20 PM (#2239)
In Response to Lonely Goatherd (#2222):

Yes. The sad truth is I'm a moron, so I inadvertantly posted my comments on this one here [goats.com] in the Ring.
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Re: Poor Diablo (Score: 3, Funny)
posted Friday, October 11, 2002 - 12:37 PM (#2240)
In Response to the_fetus (#2232):

Here in New York, it is common practice to remove one's coat when in someone else's home. I'm not sure if this quaint custom is practiced elsewhere in the world, but I apologize for not explaining it more clearly.

I probably should have had a strip inbetween those two portraying the disrobing -- an exploration of the jacket removal and it's relation to modern ideas on the insubstantive nature of our reality, perhaps. Something along these lines, perhaps:

Stan: May I take your jacket, Jon?
Jon: It's not really my jacket, Stan. One cannot truly own anything.
Stan: You know, Jon, Native Americans had a similar philosophy about man's relationship to land.
Jon: Who is to say that they were the savages, Stan?
Stan: Not I, Jon. Not I.
(Jon cries a single tear)
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Re: Poor Diablo (Score: 2, Intriguing)
posted Friday, October 11, 2002 - 02:21 PM (#2243)
Stan's right, he's not the devil....

notice the mustache, the eyebrows....and the way they make his hair look dyed...

thats right...

Stan is Hitler!
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Re: Poor Diablo (Score: 1)
posted Friday, October 11, 2002 - 05:42 PM (#2253)
In Response to jon (#2240):

Now i see how much thought you put into each and every strip. I mean, I never would have thought of taking my character's coat off. But, here in AL (Alabama), we need not adhere to the coat-removing tradition due to obvious reasons.
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Re: Poor Diablo (Score: 1)
posted Friday, October 11, 2002 - 09:52 PM (#2258)
In Response to Lonely Goatherd (#2222):

Well, there are demons out there (remember the Jerrel kidnapping?) and one of the villains is Mendel who is a geneticist interesting in cloning remember?
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Re: Poor Diablo (Score: 2, Obscure Reference)
posted Monday, October 14, 2002 - 08:19 AM (#2295)
In Response to Dynedain (#2243):

Stan - lives in the upper east side, wears a name tag, makes fantastic dips, worshipped by Diablo.

Hitler - works at the bagel shop across the street, gives Diablo extra cream cheese.

It all makes sense! I think you're on to something there Dynedain.

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Re: Poor Diablo (Score: 1)
posted Monday, October 21, 2002 - 11:44 AM (#2421)
And Stan appears to either be Satan himself, or at least a big fan of the big red guy. What a suprise. Losing all his money to Diablo though, how does that fit in? Easy, in todays modern culture, where we do to ourselves what Satan would be doin otherwise, he has little power. Bribing chiken and super villians is what he's stuck doing in attepmts to someday gain back his former power, or something like that.
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Re: Poor Diablo (Score: 2, Insightful)
posted Monday, October 21, 2002 - 02:19 PM (#2423)
In Response to Evander (#2421):

"Losing" money to Diablo? Bah. What use would Satan have for money? It's a cover. A scam. He wants to push the money on Diablo, but he has to make Diablo want it by making him "win" it.

Why does Satan want to distribute money? Because it's the root of all evil, of course.
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Satan/Stan loves me?!? (Score: 2, Intriguing)
posted Monday, October 21, 2002 - 04:11 PM (#2424)
I don't know if this will be considered off topic, and if it is, I appologize. I would have made a different thread, but I've only just created this account and can't.

Ok, now that that babble is out of the way, the meat of the post. :)

In the last frame of the last strip in this particular thread, Stan (Satan?) sticks his tongue out and puts his hands up in what I assume is suppose to be the satanic symbol often seen at Ozzy Osbourne concerts, and the like. The only problem is, that's not the symbol he is showing. The positioning of Stan(Satan)'s thumb (out from the hand, instead of touching the curled in finger) makes this an entirely different sign, namely the ASL short-hand version of "I love you".

I don't know if this was on purpose, or just a slip, but I find if funny none-the-less.
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Re: Satan/Stan loves me?!? (Score: 1)
posted Monday, October 21, 2002 - 09:07 PM (#2425)
In Response to Amilianna (#2424):

How meticulous of you. I must admit, I didnt understand it, but it'll probably come out in the next strip just what the hell he was doing.
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Re: Satan/Stan loves me?!? (Score: 1)
posted Monday, October 21, 2002 - 10:41 PM (#2426)
In Response to Amilianna (#2424):

Of course he only has 4 fingers (including thumb) on each hand....which makes things a little more difficult.

But didn't you see that magazine? A million years from now people will have 5 fingers!
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Re: Satan/Stan loves me?!? (Score: 1)
posted Monday, October 21, 2002 - 11:00 PM (#2427)
In Response to Dynedain (#2426):

Yes, I realize he only has 4 fingers, but that doesn't change the fact that his 'thumb' is pointed out instead of in. If it was meant to be drawn as if he had no thumb, his 'index' finger would be pointed down as well, and the 'thumb' would be pointed up, instead of the 'pinky' and 'index' being pointed up, the 'middle' pointed down, and the 'thumb' pointed out. :)

And, I only noticed it because I have a little brother who is deaf. :) Things like that stick out to me. :)
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Re: Satan/Stan loves me?!? (Score: 1)
posted Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 03:50 AM (#2428)
In Response to Amilianna (#2424):

I'm gonna go ahead and say that the familiar 125(ILY) symbol is not intended, and that it is meant to be satanic. Many people confuse these two symbols openly, in fact, if some one where to throw up tw I Love You signs in the air and then stick out their tounge, most people would assume it was satanic. Of course there are a few of us (and not that few, it's a pretty widely known symbol to my understanding. I know it because my mother was an audiologist) who would silently chuckle in the back ground, but we would all understand what he was doing. Alternatively, S(a)tan could simply be proclaiming his love for his nephew Diablo in the only way he knows how.
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Re: Poor Diablo (Score: 1)
posted Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 03:54 AM (#2429)
In Response to mea37 (#2423):

I don't think we disagree, which is a good thing, because I loathe pointless disagreements. What I'm getting at is that S(a)tan possibly has less power these days than he used to, due to the fact that people are prety deviant on their own (of course you could also say the opposite, that the deviance of mankind is a sign of S(a)tan's power, in which case my argumnet is moot) But, if S(a)tan is weaker than before, of course he'd be pushing money on Diablo, he wants to win Diablo's favor, he wants to keep Diablo coming back for more. And what would the devil do with money? Why, buy souls, of course.
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