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Review: 28 Days Later

Friday, June 27, 2003 - 08:36 AM

Wednesday night, Phillip and I had a chance to see a preview screening of the movie we've been plugging on the site, 28 Days Later. The folks who we've been dealing with thought it might be a good idea if we did a little review for you, the good folks who wrote all those zombie haikus, so's you'd know exactly what you're getting yourselves into if you choose to go see the flick in the theater. In the end, we came away with vastly different impressions. But while we might not agree about the movie, there's one thing we do agree on: Justice Scalia is a dick.

So, without further ado, read on for our reviews.

Jon's Review:
28 Days Later is a fine, entertaining movie. It's not the second coming of Jesus, but I don't think any of us really expected that anyway. I mean, it's a zombie flick, and Jesus was certainly the most famous Zombie of them all, even though he was a good zombie that didn't eat anyone (although he did ask other people to eat him, which I guess makes him sort of an inverse zombie), but he's just not in the movie at all, and there's no way to change that.

But I digress. Let's get the obligatory complaints out of the way so that I can tell you why I liked the movie with a clear conscience. And because, like Jesus, I am a Jew, and if there's one thing that Jews do best, it's complain. Actually, I should probably give you a little bit of background on the movie first. The movie portrays a post-apocalyptic view of London after a virus has spread through the population and turned them all into mindless, murdering fiends. We follow a handful of survivors on a happy-go-lucky journey through this wasteland as they try to figure out what the hell they should do with all this free time they suddenly have.

Now the complaints. First off, their empty, silent London doesn't work for me. I understand that they had budget constraints, and that a London devoid of life works from an aesthetic viewpoint, but part of this movie is that they try to give a veneer of scientific reason to why zombie-like creatures might come to pass. If you're going to try and redesign a concept that I've already invested some suspension of disbelief in several times in the past, you'd better go the whole nine yards and be extremely detailed. Stephen King does a great job of describing what the streets of cities might look like after a fatal virus sweeps through in his novel The Stand -- cars in the middle of the road, bodies strewn will-nilly, unburied, general chaos. Londoners must be extremely polite and tidy, because most of them have dragged their own corpses off the streets.

As long as we're nitpicking, why don't the zombies ever attack each other?

All this can be overlooked. The one thing I can't overlook is the almost complete lack of character development. if you want me to connect to your horror flick, you have to make me connect to your characters. You have to make me care about them. These characters, with the single exception of widowed father Frank (played by Brendan Gleeson), are drawn in the boldest strokes. The fiercely independent street-tough lady. The blank-faced hero onto whom we're supposed to project ourselves. The sullen daughter. The cruel military folks. Two lines of dialogue apiece, and that's about it. At least Frank has a nice speech about single malts, with which I can identify. He's someone I would want to hang with if the world ended.

Alas, this can be said about most movies these days, so there's no real news here. Aside from that, it's lots of fun. Having been made outside of the Hollywood system, this movie avoids a lot of the formulaic stuff and keeps you guessing the whole time. That's a good thing for a suspense movie. it has its own look and feel and is better off for not having had a bunch of movie execs butchering it. The actors do a great job with the limited dialogue they're given; it's a testament to their abilities that I did care about them at all.

And, of course, the zombie action is first rate. Scary stuff -- these aren't your father's zombies. They move fast.

Would I recommend the movie? Yes, if you're looking for a fun way to spend two hours over the weekend. If you're looking for something a bit different than the typical fare we get crammed down our throats. And especially if you've got a squeamish date. I give the movie seven turtles and a toaster.

Phillip's Review:
Unlike Jon (and Jesus, for that matter), I'm not a jew, and yet I seemed to have more complaints about the movie than either of them did.

Jon came out of the movie all full of nice things to say (as he did above) about how he really enjoyed the unpredictable-ness of the non-formulaic-ness of the movie. I came out of the movie berating him for making up words, and complaining that I thought the timing was off, and that overall the movie just never got going. The whole film was shot in DV, for budget constraint purposes, and I felt that there was a number of times when that showed, and the film work was trying a little too hard to be fancy, distracting me from what was actually happening. I guess, I'm just not as cool, avant-garde, and hip as your local neighborhood cartoonist.

Conversely, because I've been so well trained by the establishment, Jon's nit-picks didn't bug me as much. I have enough suspension of disbelief that I can come up with reasons at least as plausible as a virus that takes over your body in 20 seconds to explain those things away if I want to. What bugged me was the story never sucked me in. I think this is where Jon and I agree, I never cared about the characters or the events they were going through.

Overall, if you really want to see a somewhat interesting, first draft reinvention of the zombie movie format, go, watch, and enjoy. However, if, like me, you think that $10 is better spent on two pints of beer, then go, drink and enjoy, instead. Because I reserve the beer for the "however" case, I give this movie 3 stale croissants and a pot of coffee.

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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 2)
posted Friday, June 27, 2003 - 10:52 AM (#6862)
mmm....

turtle soup with toasted croissants and a good cup of coffee....

Breakfast!
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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 1)
posted Friday, June 27, 2003 - 10:59 AM (#6863)
Who is Justice Scalia?
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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 2, Informative)
posted Friday, June 27, 2003 - 11:11 AM (#6864)
In Response to DrBeat (#6863):

Justice Antonin Scalia is one of the justices presiding in the U.S. Supreme Court.

His political views and interpretation of the law, to put it politely, tend to be ultra-conservative [findlaw.com].
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Re: Antonin Scalia (Score: 1)
posted Friday, June 27, 2003 - 11:20 AM (#6865)
In Response to DrBeat (#6863):

Antonin Scalia (1936-???), Associate Justice, Supreme Court of the United States. Appointed by Reagan. Widely considered a dick/ass/fool (by ~50% of the population), but is a pretty decent writer. See dissenting opinion in Lawrence v. Texas (pdf) [akamaitech.net].


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Re: Antonin Scalia (Score: 1)
posted Friday, June 27, 2003 - 11:23 AM (#6866)
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by ~50% of the population

Should have made that by 50% of the population, wherein the population to be considered is only the subset of the overall population which knows something about him...
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Re: Antonin Scalia (Score: 1, Funny)
posted Friday, June 27, 2003 - 01:42 PM (#6875)
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Thank you, that helped immensely. I should get my head out of my ass.
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Re: Antonin Scalia (Score: 1)
posted Friday, June 27, 2003 - 03:19 PM (#6881)
In Response to mjforbes666 (#6866):

No, he's hated by a lot more than 50% of the people who know something about him.
50% of the total population hate him since a good deal of the country has no idea that someone who believes in the national establishment of religion is on the Supreme Court
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Re: Antonin Scalia (Score: 1)
posted Friday, June 27, 2003 - 03:55 PM (#6883)
In Response to samayg (#6881):

I'm not convinced. I know of a lot of freaky freaks that would be pleased to know that there's someone on the supreme court trying to save my soul... or at least force me to save it :)

I agree that more than 50% of the rational people who know something about him hate him, but I have a low opinion of the overall % of rational people.

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Re: Antonin Scalia (Score: 2)
posted Friday, June 27, 2003 - 04:40 PM (#6885)
In Response to samayg (#6881):

50% of the total population hate him since a good deal of the country has no idea

I think you're at best confusing potential hate with kinetic hate.

Or do you seriously claim it possible that someone can actually hate something they don't know exists? While it is possible to hate the idea of something that you don't think exists (like me and McDonald's hamburgers), it is not possible to hate such a thing itself.

Also, constructions such as "I would hate that if" also do not count as "I do hate".

In other words, you can't say that 50% of the population DOES hate Scalia. Unless you've got research data that you've chosen not to share?

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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 1)
posted Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 05:08 AM (#6894)
Sweet inverse-zombie jesus!
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posted Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 05:43 AM (#6897)
Phillip, it is a mark of your sad, sick society that two pints of beer cost TEN DOLLARS. With such a lack of fiscal prudence, you are exactly the sort of person who needs the in-your-face antics of slavering zombies to wake you up to the TRUTH, friend.

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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 2, Insightful)
posted Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 01:04 PM (#6903)
I actually liked 28 days although it wasn't as intense as a lot of prescreening reading lead me to believe. I liked the graininess of the DV video although sometimes I had a slightly hard time following the action. Our print was kinda jacked up vis a vis the sound about halfway through but it was quickly fixed. I'd give the movie a strong B rating.

Scalia on the other hand gets a strong D rating.
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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 1)
posted Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 11:41 PM (#6909)
Fast moving zombies frighten me more than Republicans. Humans are not an on-the-go meal; rather they make you want to take a nap - like turkey. Zombies are just like Uncle Bob who ate too much turkey at Thanksgiving and is sleepy and slow moving. Dammit, I am not an energy bar!
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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 2)
posted Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 12:08 AM (#6910)
I'm really really disappointed that nobody has tried to make a Siskel and Roper joke/reference.

Of course, it's not like there's a Siskel and Roper joke that would work here. But someone should at least have tried

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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 1)
posted Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 02:32 AM (#6912)
Saw the movie tonite. I enjoyed it, but I was wondering... was the movie blurry as well as grainy, or did I just have a lazy projectionist? Sometimes I was straining to see what was going on, and I couldn't tell if it was made that way or just situational error.

I went with about 15 people, most of which liked it. Worth my money just for the nonstandard stuff. Definitly not a hollywood movie (hence Searchlight?) Most movies I know don't give drugs to little girls... or other things.

Anyways, I figured the RAGE virus was some sorta metaphor for menstruation, what with the untrustworthiness of zombies, the title, and the large amounts of blood they vomited up regularly. Anything else you guys can think of to be sexually/undeadally insensitive? >;)
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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 2)
posted Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 05:26 PM (#6923)
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Is this based on the theory that even Scalia's better than Scrappy-Doo? Because really, I can't think of any other redeeming qualities for him.
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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 2)
posted Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 05:27 PM (#6924)
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Um, Don't you mean Ebert and Roeper?

Mistah Siskel, he dead.

Then again, it is a zombie movie, so you could be right.
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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 2)
posted Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 08:35 PM (#6928)
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Or maybe I was drunk at the time.
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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 1)
posted Monday, June 30, 2003 - 02:40 AM (#6933)
Zombies just don't interest me much... unless they're SEXY zombies. Did they have any of those?
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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 1)
posted Monday, June 30, 2003 - 03:47 AM (#6934)
I've always felt that if an apocalypse happened, the whole world would burn down without anything to prevent it from doing so. The only safe places would be islands, deserts, and prisons.

Prisons might make an interesting postapocalyptic movie. They'd have to deal with the remaining guards and construct their own mutually supportive microsociety, meaning both reward and punishment, even parole hearings to try to get a handle on antisocial prisoners. Hm.
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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 1, Insightful)
posted Monday, June 30, 2003 - 03:59 AM (#6935)
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The sexy bits are the first to fall off. That's why there aren't more sexy zombies.

Hm, just thinking on-topic here, but zombies actually have a pretty ridiculous sense for self-preservation. That's the only reason I can think of for them not eating each other; the rationalisation that they're a lot stronger in numbers and will be sustained longer if they have rules for eating. But then this doesn't manifest itself in hierarchies like hunting animals.

Another idea for a movie: a zombie pack overcomes limited mental faculties to organise themselves into an efficient hunting unit and become better zombies in the process. It could focus on a pair of star-crossed lovers who woo one another over dinner, get married in a zombie ceremony, then have zombie children. I have the feeling this has been done before to an extent but I can't remember where. But if it gets too unoriginal we could just give it an infusion with such scenes as a zombie digging into its own arm once it falls off. The possibilities are limited!
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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 2)
posted Monday, June 30, 2003 - 08:42 AM (#6941)
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That's the only reason I can think of for them not eating each other;

Your traditional zombie, sine qua merde, does not eat its fellow zombies for the simple reason that it only feasts on the flesh of the living.

The zombies in 28 Days, however, aren't under those constraints. Nor are they really zombies - in that they are not undead. They also don't seem really to consume the flesh of the living - more just bite them to turn them into infected zombies. So in that way it's clear why they don't attach each other. But they never make a point of that, so it's not really clear.
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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 2)
posted Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:03 AM (#6942)
In Response to BurtonRadons (#6935):

Dead Alive (a nice, family film by the director of the Lord of the Rings movie) featured a zombie priest falling in love with a zombie nurse over dinner, and then they had zombie sex that produced a zombie babie. So that may be what you're thinking of.
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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 1)
posted Monday, June 30, 2003 - 01:16 PM (#6948)
They weren't really zombies. They were just infected with a virus that made them go crazy and attack their fellow man. They still die by normal means, even starvation. Of course, that doesn't really explain why they don't attack other people with the virus, but that could probably be explained through contrived plot devices. I figure it's kinda like a really contagious, overpowered rabies.
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Re: Review: 28 Days Later (Score: 1)
posted Monday, June 30, 2003 - 04:50 PM (#6955)
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I get a headache just trying to imagine a continuum that would contain both Justice Scalia and Scrappy-Doo.
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