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Moon The White House

Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 06:57 PM

Fly me to the moon, baby.
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 2, Super-Genius)
posted Thursday, October 24, 2002 - 07:41 PM (#2463)
If I had money to donate, I would give it all to this because it rates about 3rd on my list of good money ventures right under 1)moving to Japan and 2)actually making it through college, but slightly above 4)Curing Cancer and 5)Filling Bill Cosby's house with Jello while he is on vacation.
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 2, Insightful)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 02:45 AM (#2466)
So this is one of those new fund-raising things like the premium section? :)

No, really, its cool.....more power to you!

However....I think that if you raise the money, you should moon whoever is in the White House at the time.

After all, Republicans and Democrats are the same, both wallowing in the corporate pool.
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 2, Compelling)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 03:33 AM (#2467)
$2.00 has been donated to the campaign from all of us at anaxified.com. Hopefully more is on the way.
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 3, Intriguing)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 04:41 AM (#2468)
Rarely have I seen such a worthy cause. Not only will it demonstrate to the Bush administration the deep respect that it is due but it will also bring us one step closer to answering one of the great unanswered questions of our time: what does Phillip look like naked? [goats.com].
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 3, Intriguing)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 07:37 AM (#2471)
Please tell your non-Goats-reading friends about this, folks. We need your support. And your cash. And your attractive sisters.
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 2, Clever)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 08:30 AM (#2472)
Maybe it's just me... or maybe it's the lack of sleep talking... hell, maybe it's the NyQuil and Tylenol cocktail I downed about twenty minutes ago... In any case, I think this brilliant. I just hope $10k is enough to cover your bail money.

If I pay double, can you go back in time with Time Travel Dude and do this last summer, too?
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 2, Insightful)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 09:27 AM (#2473)
In Response to jon (#2471):

Jon, you're doing anything for money now aren't you? ;-)
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 3, Pathetic)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 10:11 AM (#2476)
In Response to Amy_thumbelina (#2473):

Shame is best left to the weak and cowardly.
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 3, Compelling)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 10:12 AM (#2477)
You are going to post updates as soon as you learn more about the legality, and what punishment you might face for doing this, right? I think people will give more money if they know what exactly you'd be laying on the line here. Besides your asses.
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 1)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:25 PM (#2479)
Definitely keep us all posted! Perhaps those of us who live close enough to the DC area could add some extra ass free of charge.
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 1, Insightful)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 01:34 PM (#2481)
In Response to jon (#2471):

Do you really want to meet any member of the goats readers' families?
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 2)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 02:08 PM (#2483)
Some interesting comments [metafilter.com] on this from the folks over at MetaFilter.
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 1)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 02:28 PM (#2484)
In Response to coolhand (#2479):

Yeah, I know a guy at Towson who's made it one of his life goals to moon everyone in the world. It's become standard for him to great new people by turning around and dropping trou. I'm sure he'd love to lend an ass, as would many other people.
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 1, Compelling)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 03:17 PM (#2487)
In Response to jon (#2483):

Those people have no flare for life, no passions for indecent exposure. I have a feeling many of the MetaFilter people live their lives on their computers whining about other peoples fun and interesting ass adventures. That sounded much more foul than I could have ever expected. I wish I had a credit card so I could join this damn premium service and I wasn't a lonely goatherd.

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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 2, Super-Genius)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 03:20 PM (#2488)
In Response to Lonely Goatherd (#2487):

Hey, looks like I didn't need to pay afterall. Isn't life grand?
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 2, Insightful)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 03:43 PM (#2489)
In Response to Haddie (#2488):

Those making comment on the Metafilter site, have obviously never read a single goats strip. If they had, all would become clear.
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 3, Informative)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 04:21 PM (#2492)
In Response to porcupine8 (#2477):

This is not an official opinion just yet, but what I've found so far is very encouraging.

District of Columbia's Criminal Code, §22-1312 (which you can read at this website here [westgroup.com]), states "It shall not be lawful for any person or persons to make any obscene or indecent exposure of his or her person, or to make any lewd, obscene, or indecent sexual proposal, or to commit any other lewd, obscene, or indecent act in the District of Columbia, under penalty of not more than $300 fine, or imprisonment of not more than 90 days, or both, for each and every such offense."

The question of what "his or her person" means has been answered by the DC Court of Appeals in Duvallon v. DC, 515 A.2d 724 (D.C. 1986). Ms. Duvallon walked back and forth on the plaza at the U.S. Supreme Court building while wearing only a cardboard sign (purporting to be a form of petition) covering the front of her body from the neck to below the knees. Her conviction in superior court was reversed in the Court of Appeals; the following is from their opinion:

The common law of this jurisdiction derives from British precedents observed in Maryland [from which the District of Columbia was formed] in 1801. Courts of that state have construed indecent exposure as the willful and intentional public display of one's private parts or person. When, for example, these terms were applied to males in a number of nineteenth century English cases, the Queen's Bench determined that they served as euphemisms for penis. American common law cases are in accordance with those of England. Hence, "person" in the statute corresponds to genitalia portions of male and female anatomy; by inference then, exposure of one's bare buttocks is not interdicted.
It also probably helps our cause specifically that Ms. Duvallon was in the midst of expressing her First Amendment rights to free speech and protest when she was arrested.

However, the question still remains whether mooning - as an act that could be construed to go beyond mere baring of the buttocks - can be seen as "any other lewd, obscene, or indecent act" in and of itself. This is something I'll be researching further in the coming weeks, but we are optimistic so far.

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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 2, Intriguing)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 05:12 PM (#2493)
So what would happen to the $10K if it's in the 'Don't Moon' pot? Maybe the people who donated to it could get together and decide on an alternate mooning target. :)

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Lonely Goatherd
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 0)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 05:25 PM (#2494)
In Response to Amy_thumbelina (#2473):

Amy, he seems like a poor starved desperate boy...what do you say we buy a house in Pennsylvania, move in together with say....3 other people and invite Jon and Phillip over for dinner? They can even bring guests and pets.

After all, I might get a discount advertising the anime site if we cook well enough. What do you say jon? Wanna come over for dinner?
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 2)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 05:45 PM (#2495)
In Response to kafka (#2493):

An excellent question. I'm leaning towards a tasteful gift for Mr. Bush and a big party for all the donaters.

Any suggestions are welcome.
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 1)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 06:01 PM (#2496)
In Response to jon (#2476):

So exactly what dollar figure is required for you to fulfill Ken's greatest wish, and show Phillip naked.

Not that I'd contribute, mind you. Seeing Phillip fully clothed in comic-form is more than adequate for me.

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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 1, Informative)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 06:05 PM (#2497)
In Response to Beeeej (#2492):

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm married to one.

The legal definition of 'causing a disturbance' and/or 'creating a public nuisance' is extremely broad, and generally completely left up to the discretion of the arresting officer.

So just because you may not be committing a lewd or indecent act, doesn't mean you can't get arrested, jailed, and fined.
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 2, Super-Genius)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 06:07 PM (#2498)
In Response to jon (#2495):

What could be more tasteful than a twice life-size, expensively framed, high resolution, archiveal quality

photo of your asses

?
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 2, Obscure Reference)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 06:09 PM (#2499)
In Response to coolhand (#2479):

You know, if four, I say if four people walked up to the White House, turned and dropped trow, and walked off

they might think it was a movement

No, not that kind of movement.
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Re: Moon The White House (Score: 2)
posted Friday, October 25, 2002 - 06:15 PM (#2500)
In Response to zamphir (#2496):

I think you're going to have to negotiate with Phillip for that particular request. I have very little control over whether or not he wears clothes.
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