It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (29 comments)
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It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do

Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 08:02 AM

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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 1)
posted Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 08:58 AM (#24016)
you're going to NoHo! *so jealous*

i havent been there in years. wish i could come. ohio is getting me down :(
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 1)
posted Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 09:03 AM (#24017)
that = awesome, as the kids say. I'm only a hour north of Northhampton.
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 1)
posted Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 09:06 AM (#24018)
In Response to codeslave (#24017):

you're so lucky! northampton is such a great town. i love the Iron Horse.
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 2)
posted Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 11:16 PM (#24038)
Dammit! I was driving through Northampton Jan. 2nd. Now I am eight hours away.

*shakes a fist* Curse you, Goats! Curse you for being so far north!
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 12:14 AM (#24042)
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*shakes a fist* Curse you, Goats! Curse you for being so far north!

How little you understand that feeling.
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 1)
posted Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 10:03 AM (#24052)
Fools! Why must you do this mere months after I graduate and move out of Northampton? Now I have to wait five MORE years for the bitterness to subside!
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 1)
posted Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 11:48 AM (#24057)
Is anyone going to be making the trip from Boston? I don't have myself a car, but I'll pay for gas and would probobly fit in the trunk.
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 0)
posted Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 02:08 PM (#24065)
In Response to Etaan (#24057):

... my friend Ny and I are considering it-- email djd24 at columbia dot edu.
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 1)
posted Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 06:43 PM (#24082)
HA! I live in fucking Houston Texas, you guys have no idea what "north" is.

I'd go, but yeah, I drive a truck and it doesn't get what I like to call good mileage. HA. :'(
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 06:53 PM (#24084)
In Response to grey_fox_x (#24082):

I live in fucking Houston Texas, you guys have no idea what "north" is.

What the fuck does that even mean?
I'm pretty sure, last time I looked, that "north" was somewhat clockwise of "west". Also possibly widdershins of "east".

Just for kicks: Houston is approximately 7235.98km north of where my arse is currently planted. I would say, on balance, that YOU have no idea what "south" is.
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 07:10 PM (#24085)
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I'm pretty sure he meant that they have no idea what "I have to travel north to get there" means. in which case his/her comment is redundant (due to our somewhat comparitively southern situation), therefore poop.
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 09:09 PM (#24091)
In Response to Lonely Goatherd (#24065):

Same here... although, I don't have a face O' poop.


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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 3, Funny)
posted Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 09:11 PM (#24093)
In Response to tynic (#24084):

I would say, on balance, that YOU have no idea what "south" is.

Everyone's gettin' all huffy about the damn compas lately.


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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 10:28 PM (#24104)
As far as I'm concerned, if you can buy grits and the hash browns are really home fries, it's the South.

Oh, an a note to those out there from England, Australia, New Zealand, etc.: don't call someone from south of Maryland a Yank unless you're interested in taking a look at their firearms.
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 0)
posted Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 10:32 PM (#24105)
In Response to sheryls (#24016):

Yeah, too bad our oppressive government forbids interstate travel.

Oh wait, it doesn't?

If you wanted to get out of Ohio, you could.
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 10:32 PM (#24106)
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Don't worry. We have much, much better words for you guys.
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 2)
posted Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 03:00 AM (#24117)
In Response to tynic (#24106):

seppos?

y'see Australia has the rhyming slang thing happening: American is yank which rhymes with septic tank, which of course is (in australia where saying a word with too many syllables is just being up yourself) seppo.

It's obvious really. And yet misses the point because I have yet to meet an american that understands it is an insult, and so it isn't. That's why I call them wankers, saves on the explanation, gets the point across.

Of course if they are bigger than me I always explain that it is only "in groups" that americans are all wankers, individually they are fine. This works because all americans think the rest of americans are wankers too.

Oddly enough they are the only nationality which is totally gung ho about being their nationality and also have this weird little "oh I hate msot of us" thing happening. Curious.
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 2)
posted Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 03:19 AM (#24124)
In Response to tor (#24117):

call them wankers

Some of us don't see this as an insult. We're not all prudes.

they are the only nationality which is totally gung ho about being their nationality

Very often untrue. Did you make this patently false remark with some ulterior intention?

if they are bigger than me

Do you make these comments regarding superficialities with the intention of trolling for contradictions? If so, then i suppose you've succeeded, as i've apparently taken the bait repeatedly.

...all americans think...

I'd be immensely surprised if there were actually a correct way to fit that phrase into any true statement. Yours was incorrect.

this weird little "oh I hate msot of us" thing

Could you give an example? With three hundred million of us, it seems like i'd have encountered this thing by now if it did in fact exist. But i can only think of isolated instances, rather than any generalization.

I'm not purposely trying to argue with everything you say, but most of your post #24117 seems wrong to me, based on my experiences. Maybe i'm just working with skewed data. Maybe it helps to be thousands of miles away in order to have some perspective. What sort of generalizations would you make about Australians and New Zealanders, as you did for Americans?

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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 2)
posted Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 03:37 AM (#24127)
In Response to Teledildonix (#24124):

Taking on a serious tone for a second, I'd have to agree with most if not all of tor's post.

This whole thing is a simple difference in generalisations. Your generalisations about americans are different because all the americans you encounter are at that point living in america, whereas the vast majority of americans I encounter are not living in america. Usually americans who are here (in australia) are doing the backpacking/work-visa thing, and have either done this to get away from america or found after they left that the rest of the world thinks differently from them. Again this is a generalisation, but one that explains my (and possibly tor's) perceptions.

There are, of course, also the middle-aged "vacationers", but they're a WHOLE different story...
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 2)
posted Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 03:53 AM (#24133)
In Response to unFalln (#24127):

Okay, fine, maybe you're right. Maybe my generalizations are not applicable either. So perhaps i shouldn't generalize. But if you were to ask me about my specific experiences, i would still think of them as basically contradicting his statements.

There are tons of people in this world who have a strong streak of nationalism, and they come from many different countries, not just America.

There are many Americans whom i know personally whose attitudes about their country are quite different from what Tor described. I'm not generalizing: i could list almost all of my close friends, and they would all have slightly different attitudes individually, but only a few would have notions that are even vaguely close to what he mentioned. They'd be in a tiny minority. Of course, my personal friends are probably not in any way representative of the other three hundred million Americans, so i guess i can't draw any conclusions.

I'm sorry if i'm not contributing anything insightful or funny to this tangent of discussion. I'll stop pestering you with my refutation. My opinions don't seem to be valuable in these contexts.

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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 2)
posted Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 04:02 AM (#24135)
In Response to Teledildonix (#24124):

Wankers is an insult. easy, if you like being called a wanker replace it with something you don't like being called.

gung ho about their nationality has to be read with the rest of the sentence (which didn't even have a full stop or comma to allow this kind of out of context bullshit you dick), many other nations are gung ho about their country but, say I am talking to a frog, he will kick me for saying "the other french suck arse but you, mr froggy, don't", americans tend to be happy with this in my humble years of traipsing through europe and america and australia and new zealand.

If they are bigger than me is a nice way of saying I don't argue intellectually with someone that could eat my brains for breakfast. I do a couple of martial arts and have learned that when you are outclassed physically you must be very carefully about anything else. It doesn't matter how right I am or how intriguing an idea is if they are just going to hit me with a pool cue.

"All americans think", you deny this? You claim that other americans are not cockheads of the highest order? Who did you vote for? Why are you suprised I think this?

and with the I hate you thing, YOU HAVE ENCOUNTERED THIS, are you trying to tell me your chip on the shoulder, bollocks about the new world order by tel* is purely from vacuum? You have not been denigrated and put down upon? Bollock I say unto thee, I have read your postings. I have watched votes in southern states of the US, A serious chunk of americans appear to hate you because of who you have sex with (which I think is ridiculous btw, if I don't like you it's because you haven't given me reason to like you, not becaue you fuck someone I don't want to fuck).

Now, new zealanders and australian.

NZ'ers are so damn proud of their "can do" attitude that many of them still think that Pierce was the first person to fly.

Australians still turn up in their droves to Oktoberfest and drink shit beer and puke on each other and think this is culture (it's in EUROPE!!!).

Trust me I know more wrong with these two countries (and also Norway) than I really want to know. However I feel I should know just how different the majority of people in a country are from me before I go around proclaiming my love for a bit of land.

This is why I do not claim nationality as any badge of pride.
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 2)
posted Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 04:04 AM (#24136)
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I'll stop pestering you

cock.

You sound like my "all time wonder martyr mum"

Have a fucking opinion. don't apologise, just fucking learn or teach.
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 2)
posted Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 04:15 AM (#24140)
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Australians still turn up in their droves to Oktoberfest and drink shit beer and puke on each other and think this is culture

Are you telling me it's not?
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posted Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 08:29 AM (#24159)
Back to the topic at hand... official request for these guys to do something in Boston one of these days.
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Re: It's Not A Bar, But It'll Do (Score: 2)
posted Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 08:50 AM (#24160)
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It's not official if you didn't register, sorry.

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