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Help Save Goats

Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 04:32 PM

UPDATE: Your response has been overwhelming. In the last day and a half since we've put this post up asking for your help, you folks have managed to raise almost $4,500! Hopefully we'll see $10,000 within the next few days and I can start working on getting you fresh Goats four days a week. Thank you to everyone who has donated; I wish I had the time to respond to everyone who has donated personally, but know that your donations and your words of support are greatly appreciated. Those of you who have donated over $100, I will be sending out your strip art soon, hopefully next week (after I've recovered from MoCCA). More details on that as they occur. For those of you who haven't given yet, please give us a hand by donating a few dollars. Thanks again!

This is one of the more difficult newsposts I've had to write over the seven or so years we've been doing Goats. Simply put, Goats is in trouble. Actually, Goats is doing quite well, but we're suffering from the high level of success the strip has seen the past year or so. That may sound strange, but let me explain.

Basically what Phillip and I have been doing for the last couple of years is "building the business". For those of you who play RPGs, it's kinda like leveling up your character. We've been reinvesting all the money we've made over the last seven years into the business, expanding our line of merchandise, dabbling with advertising and that sort of thing. We haven't paid ourselves one thin dime in all this time. And as Goats has grown, it's required more and more of our time. For the last year, it's distracted me to the extent that I've spent a lot of time out of work. My personal finances are a total mess, and the only income I have coming in right now is what I can scrape together from meager freelance HTML gigs. It's not good.

The shame of it is that I think we're only a year or so away from being able to do this full-time with a small but reasonable salary. It would be a dream come true, and we're so close I can smell it. There's two of us that need to be paid, so it's taking about twice as long as we'd like, but it is possible. Especially if I can spend less time trying to find freelance work and more of my time working on the strip to get us to that point. Unfortunately I'm not entirely sure I can get over this hump with my credit rating intact. At least, not without your help.

So here's the deal: we're going to be asking for reader donations over the next few weeks. Please dig deep and donate as much as you can. Phillip and I will use that money to pay rent and credit card debt and the like, and it will allow us to spend more time working on the strip.

What do you get out of this? A few things.

  • If we manage to raise $10,000 in this fund drive, we'll start publishing Goats 4 days a week.
  • If we manage to raise $20,000 in this fund drive, we'll start publishing Goats 5 days a week.
  • For every $100 you donate, we'll send you the original art for a Goats comic strip.
And, of course, no matter how much you donate, whether it be $1 or $1000, you'll get our undying appreciation and you'll be helping to make our dreams come true.

Here's how it works: Click the Donate button below (the one with the starving kitty on it). Put in the amount that you would like to donate. If you don't have a PayPal account, don't worry; they no longer require you to have one to make a credit card donation (same goes for our store purchases). Fill out the form; if you're donating $100 or more, in the Message area, list the dates of the strips that you would like the original art from. Please list at least a couple of alternate dates. I will send you the first choice from your list that is still available, first come, first served. The more alternates you list, the more likely you will get one of your choices. Be sure to include a shipping address if you're getting strip art or I won't know where to send it to.

I'll post a note with our progress in the next few days and let you know how close we're getting to our goal. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to post them in the attached forum. Thanks in advance for all of your help.

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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2)
posted Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 07:28 PM (#17856)
*gulp*

/me starts looking at his finances to see what's affordable

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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2)
posted Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 08:12 PM (#17857)
Damned foreign exchange rates.
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2)
posted Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 08:12 PM (#17858)
A couple of addendums:
  • You can certainly send us a check if you would like (instead of paying via PayPal); if you want to send a check, contact us [goats.com] and we'll send you the mailing address.
  • If you are donating over $100 and want to receive a recent strip (such as the ones since I started using the font), I will letter it by hand for you. If you do not want me to letter it by hand (and leave the dialogue balloons blank), please let me know in the message attached to your donation.
  • All the strips are on 9"x12" Bristol paper, drawn in pencil (some in regular, newer ones in non-repro blue) and inked with Pigma Micron markers.

  Lemme know if you have any questions and I'll do my best to answer them here.
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 07:54 AM (#17859)
I'd be more inclined to donate $100 if you hadn't already sold my favorite goats strip ever. Good thing there are more worthwhile strips, though ;)

I'll see what my wife will let me donate.
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 1, Compelling)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 09:44 AM (#17863)
Besides donatering (which I have just done), how else can we help? Donating bandwidth? Running a bakesale? Tattooing 'goats.com' on a highly visible body location?
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 09:57 AM (#17864)
In Response to codeslave (#17863):

All that stuff is cool, but probably unnecessary. Aside from donations, telling your friends to read the strip is likely the most helpful thing you can do.

Thanks for your help, everyone -- the response so far has been tremendous. I'll give you an update on exactly how tremendous in the next day or so.
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 1, Funny)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 10:25 AM (#17865)
In Response to jon (#17864):

Well, crud. What am I going to do with all these cookies then? I don't even like oatmeal!
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2, Intriguing)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 10:39 AM (#17866)
Is there any possibility to getting a one shot character portrait instead of a strip? Like what was given out in the first S.P.E.Y. package?
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 1)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 10:44 AM (#17867)
I am so going to donate moneys, even though I am but 13. Goats is a part of my life, and we must help it get better, and stronger. I will donate said moneys as soon as I work up the energy to go get my credit card... Also, Jon, any chance we could just buy a strip? Or would it be 100 dollars anyway...?
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 10:57 AM (#17868)
In Response to jeepidiot (#17866):

Sure thing -- just let me know which character you'd like in the comments field.
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 10:59 AM (#17869)
In Response to bobismyalium (#17867):

The strips that we've auctioned off so far have sold for well over $100; essentially the $100 price per strip is already discounted.
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 11:06 AM (#17870)
Not that my finances are much better, but I do have a job, so I helped out as much as I could. I'm sorry to hear the bad news, but it seems like the goats community can pull through.

I have to say it felt a little weird to request your work for a donation; but I am pretty excited to own a peice of goats.


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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 11:11 AM (#17872)
In Response to unFalln (#17857):

yep ... we poor antipodeans have to donate $1.30 just for Jon to get a single dollar.

But on the bright side, Vegemite is much cheaper for us.

Now, to go and explain to my credit card why its sacrifice is ultimately worthwhile.
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 3, Informative)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 11:16 AM (#17873)
In Response to Dynedain (#17856):

Well... Phillip may not be the pope, but he's a pope.
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 12:08 PM (#17877)
In Response to Dynedain (#17856):

Hallelujah! Amen! Pass the hat around again.
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 3, Funny)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 12:17 PM (#17878)
I don't know how feasible it is, but have you considered applying for an NEA (National Endowment for the Arts) Grant? It seems to me they'll give money to just about anyone for just about anything. Goats certainly qualifies under those criteria.

I myself will give as much as I can as soon as I can, at present that amount is no more than a pittiance.
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 12:41 PM (#17880)
In Response to Clan_Hanna (#17878):

I haven't considered it previously, but I am now. I'll look into it when I have some free time.
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 1)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 01:32 PM (#17881)
In Response to jettaboy20 (#17870):

I have to say it felt a little weird to request your work for a donation; but I am pretty excited to own a peice of goats.
[BoxJamsHead]Boing![/BoxJamsHead] You know, if you were to issue private stock in goats, I'd buy some. Who wouldn't want to own a piece of goats?
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 01:39 PM (#17882)
In Response to BoxJam (#17881):

That is the nice thing, I think for Jon and Phillip, about offering original art instead of stock.

Donaters end up owning the art, not the company.

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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 01:48 PM (#17883)
In Response to zamphir (#17882):

Exactly. As things stand, they can ignore us when we complain about the godawful orange.
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 01:48 PM (#17884)
In Response to zamphir (#17882):

owning the art, not the company

Sharing usually seems like more fun than shopping. But i guess that's just my opinion-- i've never really been a huge fan of a commercial paradigm. I've always thought that cooperation feels more interesting than competition, particularly when discussing art, humor, talent, community, turn-ons, et cetera.

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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 06:40 PM (#17885)
In Response to codeslave (#17865):

You make cookies out of oatmeal???
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 06:43 PM (#17886)
In Response to unFalln (#17885):

Maybe he knows how to make oatmeal out of cookies...

?

And what's wrong with an oatie bik anyway?
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 2, Pathetic)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 07:22 PM (#17887)
Jon, please, just don't stop accepting $100 donations or give away MY favorite strip [Lynda tries to throw Phillip and Gertie out of the Peculier because there isn't enough beer] [Well, sure you can give it away, there's always others I'd love... but I'd be a little disappointed with life] until I get paid... because I can't afford $100 until then.

Good luck, Godspeed, and all that jazz.
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Re: Help Save Goats (Score: 1)
posted Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 11:17 PM (#17889)
If I had cash, I'd so donate Jon. Seriously. I promise I'll invest some soon.

Question. Does it have to be a one-lump sum payment of $100, or can it be little by little. Cause I really want that "Republicans for Voldemort" strip.
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