T3: Rise of the Machines **Spoilers** (12 comments)
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T3: Rise of the Machines **Spoilers**
posted Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 11:08 PM (#7043)
Since the movie [terminator3.com] is now out, i was curious what everyone else thought about it. I thought it was pretty nice. However, there were a few flaws in the logic that bothered me.

  • Why didn't any machines notice a small 2-seater plane taking off from the area? I'd think that one of the battle planes would have shot a missile at it just to kill more humans. (i was disappointed when the T1's never said "Kill all humans")

  • Why weren't there any problems with the Terminator's energy supplies in the previous movies? I believe he was crushed once (found to be detrimental to the longetivity of hydrogen fuel cells) and then drowned/candy-coated with molten metal another time (also not good for the power supply). Shouldn't John have been blown up/covered with liquid-hot mag-ma - uhm, metal a couple of times already?

  • Finally, how long do you think it took them to end up having sex on the presidential speech podium? And, did the old video equipment still work? That'd be some crazy my-father-died-and-we're-stuck-in-a-fallout-shelte r-after-my-fiance-was-killed-by-a-robot-assassin sex don't you think? BooYAH!

    Also, Billy Lucas was great. Look for him, he's a STAR!!!

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    Re: T3: Rise of the Machines **Spoilers** (Score: 2)
    posted Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 05:32 PM (#7117)
    I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on the power cells. Maybe they changed the power systems, since some time had apparently passed in the future and they indicated he was a "special" version sent to kill John Connor. Also, both times the power cell ruptured, it was due to the TX's "plasma" systems.

    I really couldn't suspend my disbelief in the particle accelerator scene, though. If you're going to show a powerful magnetic field incapacitating a super-strong robot, don't also have in the frame people wearing wristwatches and carrying a backpack full of guns and ammo able to resist the pull.

    On the bright side, I did enjoy the new uses of wireless networking. And the prototype terminators and hunter killers. I thought John was too wishy-washy, and not the same character from T2. Sarah's death seemed too stupid and arbitrary, but did fit in with this movie's theme of fate being inevitable. They were wrong about there being no fate but what you make, apparently.

    I was also very glad to see actual puppets and tangible special effects used in many scenes. It wasn't all just CGI, and that made me feel good.

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    Re: T3: Rise of the Machines **Spoilers** (Score: 1)
    posted Sunday, July 06, 2003 - 07:28 PM (#7119)
    The atmosphere was somewhat lacking: wasn't as dark and foreboding as the first two. I was also disappointed in the noticable lack of violence.

    I agree on the use of puppetry, too. It would've been disappointing to see nothing but CGI used.
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    Re: T3: Rise of the Machines **Spoilers** (Score: 2, Insightful)
    posted Monday, July 07, 2003 - 10:28 PM (#7173)
    I have to admit that I enjoyed this movie. However, I did have a few problems with it that I feel are worth mentioning.

            First of all, "The Terminatrix"???? Um, Yeah, Nuff said.

            Secondly, her model was the TX. What is up with that? Did they run out of numbers they could use to designate the terminators? Or maybe they just decided that they would limit the number of possible sequels. Watch out for the TY and the TZ. The TZ is a midget.

            Thirdly, it seems to me that in some ways the TX is less advanced than the previous terminator. I mean, you wouldn't see the 'Liquid Metal' Terminator gettin' tore up by a helicopter.


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    Re: T3: Rise of the Machines **Spoilers** (Score: 1)
    posted Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 12:14 AM (#7187)
    In Response to Yoshi (#7173):

    Sure, it had to rely on the endoskeleton, but that's what allowed it to bring back its primary weapon. The T1000 couldn't replicate moving parts, whereas the TX had several nifty gadgets. Tit for tat, I guess.

    Major problem I saw, also, was when the T-X took remote control of the cars. I can see acceleration working with electronic fuel injection, but the butterfly, steering and brakes all still require mechanical pressure to operate.

    T-X vs. T-5000 ect... Maybe they were referencing Mega-Man X? Likely, it's probably some obscure literary/historical convention that X denotes the pinnacle of development.
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    Re: T3: Rise of the Machines **Spoilers** (Score: 2)
    posted Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 01:07 AM (#7189)
    In Response to solar (#7187):

    or maybee X as in X-chromosome...or maybee because X is so popular right now (OSX, XP, etc)
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    Re: T3: Rise of the Machines **Spoilers** (Score: 1)
    posted Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:30 AM (#7213)
    In Response to Dynedain (#7189):

    So, was she Jaguar or Panther?
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    Re: T3: Rise of the Machines **Spoilers** (Score: 2)
    posted Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 03:10 AM (#7218)
    In Response to AsphaltBuffet (#7213):

    actually...just watched it...ahnold said what it stood for...xtreme something or other
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    Re: T3: Rise of the Machines **Spoilers** (Score: 1)
    posted Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 11:49 AM (#7243)
    In Response to Dynedain (#7218):

    The new Terminator X.
    Stronger, faster, smarter.
    Beautiful and deadly in one EXTREME package!

    Sponsered by Mountain Dew.
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    Re: T3: Rise of the Machines **Spoilers** (Score: 2)
    posted Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:14 PM (#7244)
    In Response to solar (#7243):

    You're just begging for someone to say "Do the Terminator X", aren't you?

    Well, I'm not gonna do it.

    Oh. Dang.
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    Re: T3: Rise of the Machines **Spoilers** (Score: 1)
    posted Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 08:09 PM (#7263)
    In Response to misere (#7117):

    Maybe they changed the power systems, since some time had apparently passed in the future and they indicated he was a "special" version sent to kill John Connor.

    He wasn't a special unit from what i understood of his explination. He was chosen because of the trust JC had for that particular model.

    both times the power cell ruptured, it was due to the TX's "plasma" systems

    I don't recall the TX using her plasma weapon when Arnold was under the blast door. It started glowing before it came into contact with her.

    I believe he grabbed her partial-torso with one hand and removed his power cell with the other; then crammed it down her throat. I think it was the removal of the second one - and it's loss of power for containment - that led to the explosion.

    He must have some good power reserves too. It wasn't until the nuclear winter that we saw his eyes dim. I think i remember that nuclear winters take a bit to happen after large-scale nuclear warfare.

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    Re: T3: Rise of the Machines **Spoilers** (Score: 1)
    posted Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 08:48 PM (#7264)
    In Response to Dynedain (#7218):

    How unoriginal. You'd think that in a script of the caliber of Terminator 3 they could come up with some more impressive naming convention.

    Wait, I just answered my own question, didn't I?
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    Re: T3: Rise of the Machines **Spoilers** (Score: 2)
    posted Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 10:30 PM (#7266)
    In Response to Clan_Hanna (#7264):

    the caliber of the script of t3 was quite small....entertaining, some originality in the action scenes (but nothing outsanding)...but what little scripting there was was piss-poor
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