for all you pervy hobbit-fanciers (16 comments)
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for all you pervy hobbit-fanciers
posted Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 01:43 PM (#3534)
This [nyu.edu] is deliciously hilarious.
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I suppose a sample would be appropriate. (Score: 3, Compelling)
posted Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 01:46 PM (#3535)
THE SECRET DIARY OF LEGOLAS SON OF WEENUS

Day One:


Went to Council of Elrond. Was prettiest person there. Agreed to follow some tiny little man to Mordor to throw ring into volcano. Very important mission - gold ring so tacky.

Day Four:

Boromir so irritating. Why must he wear big shield like dinner plate all the time? Climbed up Caradhras but wimpy humans who cannot walk on snow insisted we climb back down.

Am definitely prettiest member of the Fellowship. Go me!

Day Six:

Far too dark in Mines of Moria to brush hair properly. Am very afraid I am developing a tangle.
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Re: I suppose a sample would be appropriate. (Score: 3, Pathetic)
posted Friday, January 10, 2003 - 11:59 PM (#3564)
In Response to jon (#3535):

can't see it....seems the server is down...

but....scary

oh, and btw, there were 30-40 someodd days between council of elrond and moria...would make for a much more interesting 'diary' w/ the additional development time
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Re: I suppose a sample would be appropriate. (Score: 2)
posted Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 09:13 AM (#3565)
In Response to Dynedain (#3564):

there were 30-40 someodd days

Now, have you translated that from the Numenorean calendar for us mere mortals?


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Re: I suppose a sample would be appropriate. (Score: 2)
posted Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 06:23 PM (#3566)
In Response to zamphir (#3565):

gahhd....would you shut up already....you made your point several times in several threads....i'm a tolkien fanatic...you happy?
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Re: for all you pervy hobbit-fanciers (Score: 2)
posted Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 06:36 PM (#3567)
Got to read it now that its working again...

I have to say...thats some pretty funny shit...although the overemphasized constant barage of gay jokes makes me think it was written by quite the homophobe.

Its almost like in Ellen Degenerate's (i know thats not the right spelling) TV show absolutely every single joke was about being gay....which is why it failed. Will & Grace on the other hand is a very funny show wherein most of the jokes do not rely on the sexual orientation of the characters.
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Re: for all you pervy hobbit-fanciers (Score: 1)
posted Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 07:15 PM (#3569)
In Response to Dynedain (#3567):

Ellen Degenerate? Is that a gay joke in itself?

Degenerate, according to dictionary.com

1. A depraved, corrupt, or vicious person.
2. A person lacking or having progressively lost normative biological or psychological characteristics
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Re: I suppose a sample would be appropriate. (Score: 2)
posted Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 10:56 PM (#3572)
In Response to Dynedain (#3566):

Awwww come on... Can't I beat this horse ONE MORE time.... It's not dead yet. It's only a flesh wound!

:-)

I was actually hoping you'd go into a long winded discussion about different mechanisms for recording and tracking time in Tolkien, and possibly harrass me for misusing 'Numenorean'...


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Re: I suppose a sample would be appropriate. (Score: 2)
posted Monday, January 13, 2003 - 04:23 AM (#3580)
In Response to zamphir (#3572):

i don't do that....remember

come back here! I'll bite your legs off!
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Re: for all you pervy hobbit-fanciers (Score: 2)
posted Monday, January 13, 2003 - 04:26 AM (#3581)
In Response to Haddie (#3569):

unfortuneately i said 'Degenerate' so many times back when she was making such a fuss about being gay (we get it already, do you have to beat it into the minds of every single person on the planet?) that i can no longer remember her real last name (even though it is very similar)
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Re: for all you pervy hobbit-fanciers (Score: 3, Compelling)
posted Monday, January 13, 2003 - 12:03 PM (#3584)
In Response to Dynedain (#3567):

I have to say...thats some pretty funny shit...although the overemphasized constant barage of gay jokes makes me think it was written by quite the homophobe.
I think this statement is poorly reasoned. You cannot assume that because someone makes a joke about something that they feel a certain way about it. One could interpret the jokes in exactly the opposite way -- perhaps the author's agenda was to point out how the act of making assumptions about sexual orientation is not always a good idea. Perhaps the intent is to promote tolerance.

I'm not saying that that's the case, but one shouldn't jump to conclusions.

There's something to be said about taking political correctness to a level where we are making judgments based on the content rather than the message and intent. I see this happen all the time and it is a dangerous precedent.

For example, I do not personally support baby fucking [goats.com], but I can use it to make a point about how people use humor and offensiveness to communicate, and the perils involved in such communication.
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other uses for babies and duct tape. (Score: 3, Funny)
posted Monday, January 13, 2003 - 02:00 PM (#3586)
In Response to jon (#3584):

For example, I do not personally support baby fucking [goats.com],

So much for that merchandise suggestion...
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Re: other uses for babies and duct tape. (Score: 0)
posted Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 09:20 AM (#3595)
In Response to zamphir (#3586):

yeah well my 1 and a half year old wasn't real thrilled with the comic, either, oh well back to sesame street for bedtime stories
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Re: for all you pervy hobbit-fanciers (Score: 3, Insightful)
posted Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 07:59 PM (#3603)
In Response to jon (#3584):

I fully understand that, and your comments are completely valid.

What I had a problem with on the 'diaries' was the repetive 'in case you didn't get it the first 40 times, here it is again' attitude. Obviously, the author has some talent at humorous writing, as evidence by most of the other entries. But to downplay that by beating the dead horse over and over again (pardon the pun) is a poor decision.

My homophobe comment, while perhaps in poor judgement, was made from experience. Many people beat you over the head with the same joke in a slightly different format. I've noticed that those who do it with homosexual-related humor are either, a) openly gay and want to make sure everyone knows it (as is the case w/ Ellen...btw, i had a roomate like this), or b) extremely insecure and homophobic (some people i've known, and the stereotypical redneck, football playing, midwest, farmboy).

So the intent could have been to inflame and insult (as I at first assumed) or it could have been to promote tolerance. Unfortuneately what I have found is that trying to promote tolerance in this way (overwhelming inundation that is, not the humor) is actually more likely to aggrevate situations than to help them. Thats why I pointed out Will & Grace in comparison to Ellen. W&G is able to use humor to increase tolerance (and from observed friend's reactions to the show - I think it has done a good job) because homosexuality is not the basis for every joke and plot development. Ellen, on the other hand, made every single joke be about her homosexuality, which quickly became irritating.
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Re: for all you pervy hobbit-fanciers (Score: 2)
posted Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 09:17 PM (#3605)
In Response to Dynedain (#3603):

Many people beat you over the head with the same joke in a slightly different format.

Oh man... Now he's picking on me.

That's not right! :-)

Besides which, repetition is one of the fundamentals of comedy.
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Re: for all you pervy hobbit-fanciers (Score: 1)
posted Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 07:39 AM (#3717)
In Response to Dynedain (#3603):

I've noticed that those who do it with homosexual-related humor are either, a) openly gay and want to make sure everyone knows it..., or b) extremely insecure and homophobic

To further the point, I tend to find that in these situations it is most likely not just either one but both a and b.


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Re: for all you pervy hobbit-fanciers (Score: 2, Informative)
posted Monday, March 03, 2003 - 03:12 AM (#4238)
In Response to Dynedain (#3603):

The person that writes the VSD, is a slash-fiction writer. So I doubt very much that she was meaning the jokes in a negative way. As for the either being gay or insecure homophobe, I dont' think that either is the case. I've met quite a few straight women that enjoy slashy fiction.

When I saw the Fellowship of the Ring, there were people snickering and going "Oh my gawd" at the end when Sam and Frodo are having their moment. There are quite a few things that can be takin the wrong way. *shrug* Just my two cents.
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