Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (21 comments)
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Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!!
posted Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 10:25 PM (#360)
Quite frankly, I have some serious doubts about Batman's chances for surviving this battle. I mean, he's got a lot of cool gadgets and he's in really, really good shape, but I mean c'mon! He's just a man! A "bat" man, perhaps, but absolutely not a "super" man, so how is this even a fair fight? Does anyone have some insight on this?
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Re: Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (Score: 2, Insightful)
posted Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 11:19 PM (#366)
Well, this is assuming that batman fights fair. I mean, if he lays hands on kryptonite, it's a whole different ballgame. I mean, the stuff doesn't just make him just as vulnerable as a human, during the exposure he's pretty much on the ground in agony. Clark Kent's got the all around good guy thing under his belt, plus a brain in his head, but other than that when he's minus the superpowers he hasn't got a lot in his court. 'Course, if Batman does fight fair, aka not resorting to Luthoresque means, it's no contest. Superman hands down.

That goes for spidey, too. :)

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Re: Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (Score: 2, Informative)
posted Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 01:32 AM (#377)
The synopsis I read of the story has them fighting together against villians and at some point they have a disagreement about how to handle things. The name is misleading, if that synopsis is true. Though one cool thing about it is that there are going to be 3 roles for women. Lois Lane obviously, but who would the other 2 be? Maybe WonderWoman and Batgirl? Something to think about... Ash
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Re: Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (Score: 2, Insightful)
posted Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 09:25 AM (#387)
In Response to cKent (#366):

Yellow kryptonite especially. If I recall correctly from the old old stuff, yellow kryptonite basically took away Superman's powers and made him the equivalent of a regular man. There's a really hilariously good story that makes mention of this, called Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex [blueneptune.com] by Larry Niven, that explains why Superman never really gets a girl (in bed) and how you'd go about continuing his lineage.

But, to remain on topic (or return to it), if Superman was to be stripped of his powers by yellow kryptonite, Batman would have little trouble finishing him off. I mean, Superman has never taken the trouble to learn any fighting skills (martial arts, warfare, etc) since he can basically use his brute force to pummel/withstand anything thrown at him. Batman, on the other hand, would most likely pull a little Mr. Miyagi on Superman's butt and have him down on the ground in less than a minute.
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Re: Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (Score: 1)
posted Friday, July 12, 2002 - 07:41 PM (#468)
In Response to cKent (#366):

I think Batman would have to resort to any means necessary to beat Superman, so Kryptonite would be fair. I also feel Batman is the cooler character, who'se with me?
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Re: Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (Score: 0)
posted Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:56 PM (#474)
I can't seem to get my registration to work.

Anyways:

I have had this discussion many a time, and we have concluded that BatMan would win, as he has a kryptonite ring. Superman gave him the ring in the even that Supeman ever goes crazy and needs to be stopped. Supermans only chance of winning would be a sneak airial (sp?) attack behind Batman's back, shooting him with his Laser vision from the sky.

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Re: Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (Score: 1)
posted Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:09 PM (#477)
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I got it working, so, if it matters at all, that last comment was mine.
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posted Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:09 PM (#478)
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If you're having problems registering, contact phillip [goats.com] and he'll be able to help you.
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Re: Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (Score: 1)
posted Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:14 PM (#479)
In Response to Lonely Goatherd (#474):

looking at my spelling it apears I either need typing lessons, or a new keyboard. My point above is simply that a fight between the two would never occur under normal conditions, as they are great friends, and any conditions that would cause this fight would end up with either the use of the ring, which I believe Batman carries in his utility belt, or the sneak attack from Superman, which goes completely against his character.
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Re: Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (Score: 1)
posted Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 05:27 PM (#500)
In Response to Evander (#479):

I guess I'll need to show my ignorance of the comic book world for a moment here. Is it not the case that Superman and Batman were originally written in entirely separate comic book universes? (Specifically, wasn't Superman a Marvel comic and Batman a D.C. comic?) And if that's the case, what is the source of canonical cross-over material, and is it a certainty that this upcoming movie will be based on that particular canon?
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Re: Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (Score: 1)
posted Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 06:19 PM (#501)
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Nope -- they're both DC comics.
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Re: Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (Score: 1)
posted Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 09:59 PM (#531)
In Response to Ash42 (#377):

Or, what could be more contraversial than having a woman play superman ? It actually seems somewhat fitting to me.
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Re: Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (Score: 1)
posted Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 10:03 PM (#532)
Well, from what I remember, the battles between Batman and Superman have usually come out in Batman's favor.

  I wouldn't entirely be suprised if this followed previous form.
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Re: Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (Score: 1)
posted Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:36 AM (#904)
Honestly, I think the odds are very much in Batman's favor. Let us observe pop culture for a moment...

If James Bond were to walk into a room with say 100 evil henchmen or so and a brawl breaks out, who's likely to walk out more or less unscathed and sleep with three women before the credits role? Bond, hands down ... the henchmen never really even had a chance.

This is true in most genre. Why? Because people like the underdog. They feel they can relate with him, because everyone, reguardless of race, gender, or social status, always feels their life could be a lot better, and everyone else has it easier than they do, so they see themselves as an underdog and therefore feel compelled to root for other underdogs.

No one wants watch someone go up against insurmountable odds and lose right off, it'd be unthinkable, we wouldn't like it. The underdog has to either just barely win, or just barely lose. It's the only way the public can be satisfied.

Therefore, BECAUSE superman has such a huge advantage over batman, superman is almost surely doomed.


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Re: Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (Score: 1)
posted Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 09:36 PM (#1295)
While I WANT very much for Batman to win (and thus prove that brain CAN beat brawn and perhaps give me hope that I can somehow defeat the jocks who terrorize the computer lab every day) I must sadly agree that Superman would triumph in this case. Superman has been fighting villans for quite a while now and he's probably realized that if a villan has something that can hurt him, he simply won't get close enough for said vilan to be able to use said hurty-thing. He can just lift up big heavy things and throw them from far away. I don't think batman would even have a chance, sadly. I envision the Dark Knight surveying the city from a rooftop and then WHAM he's hit by a Chevy, and we have batsmear. Superman gets my vote for this one.
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Re: Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (Score: 1)
posted Monday, September 23, 2002 - 01:44 PM (#1897)
In Response to Blackjack (#1295):

I have to disagree dear boy. Being that Superman is such a "good boy" and dedicated to doing right (bleh) I simply don't see him as sneaking up behind Batman (my sweet sweet love) and dropping a Chevy on him. I think Superman is the kind of guy who could really get into the classic duel scene; you know, make a challenge and then fight to the death right out in the open. Which comes back to the ultimate question here, brains vs. brawn. Because I love Batman, and hate Superman I vote hands down for brains. Not that Batman has no muscle, (oh he does, he does), but I think with his absolute cunning and street knowledge he could take Superman to the pavement. Besides Superman is such a pansy ass he'd probably give up half-way through and want to make peace. Stupid boy-scout mentality.
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posted Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 11:37 PM (#3053)
In Response to goat_girl (#1897):

Throwing blunt objects at someone is not a sneak attack, and i have seen the Man of Steel do it before. Let me tell u, Superman has aim and with that strength, he can throw a car faster than a speeding bullet. Also batman would have to attack my man head on. batman might be good at sneaking around the joker or any other of the crazy people that he has a hard time fighting, but he wouldn't have a chance around someone who could see through walls and hear a pin drop over 10 miles away. Superman, the original, the Man of Steel, would whip batman until he cried. END OF STORY
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Re: Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (Score: 1)
posted Monday, December 02, 2002 - 01:22 PM (#3057)
I'm kind of amused that this is what finally gets me to register...

Anyway, it depends on the situation. If he's even got a bit of planning, Batman wins. If it's a spontanious "wait a minute, I don't like you anymore," then Superman has a better chance. One of the nasty things about Batman is that he's prepared for quite a lot, and capable of taking out most of the JLA. I point you to any of Frank Miller's work, or even to the recent JLA storyline "Tower of Babel." Batman is the man.

However, Green Lantern could whoop 'em both and be having a drink at the same time. Green Lanterns kick ass.

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posted Monday, December 09, 2002 - 08:24 PM (#3131)
In Response to Arrus (#3057):

i don't know about batman, but GL has lost against Supes before. He just blocked the ring with the yellow part of his costum, and knocked GL out
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Re: Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (Score: 1)
posted Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 11:22 AM (#3228)
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I think that it would be close. i don't particularly like superman, but i love batman(he he he) and i still think that it would be close. Batman has the smarts and the uncanny ablitily to predict what is going to happen, while superman has the headless stubberness to get through just about anything. but in my oppinoin, i would have to lean toward batman, if for no other reason than that superman is just too damn perky!
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posted Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 03:19 PM (#3238)
In Response to Abernathy (#3228):

Why do people always think Superman is dumb, and batman is always prepared? Neither of those statements are true, Batman is not always prepared. He can only store afew things in that utility belt(unless he is keeping things in his ass, but that's another message board all together) and Superman is the last of a race that is superior to anything on earth, his brain is evolved far beyond ANYTHING ON EARTH, batman could never out smart superman
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Re: Superman vs. Batman: What Gives?!! (Score: 1)
posted Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 03:36 PM (#3239)
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Have you ever read JLA? Batman has outsmarted superman before, and super strength doesn't necessarily mean super smarts. Look at pro-athletes today, just because they are bigger and faster than me doesn't make them the most intelligent things on two feet.

Looks like check was a little pre-emptive.
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