posted Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 05:45 PM (#26985)
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posted Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 12:42 AM (#26986)
The game is obviously written by a rationalist that wants to see the creationist lose.
The game written by the creationist would be along the lines of:
Randy and Cretin start with $100.
Cretin points out that god made the money, randy doesn't believe in god and so therefore has no money, Cretin takes the money and wins.
Shorter game, same inherent issues[1].
[1] If you got two mutually exclusive viewpoints to codify their viewpoints to a degree you could make a logic game to illustrate the differences you would obviously have a game which is not internally consistent.
The game written by the creationist would be along the lines of:
Randy and Cretin start with $100.
Cretin points out that god made the money, randy doesn't believe in god and so therefore has no money, Cretin takes the money and wins.
Shorter game, same inherent issues[1].
[1] If you got two mutually exclusive viewpoints to codify their viewpoints to a degree you could make a logic game to illustrate the differences you would obviously have a game which is not internally consistent.
posted Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 08:40 AM (#26987)
In Response to tor (#26986):
If you got two mutually exclusive viewpoints to codify their viewpoints to a degree you could make a logic game to illustrate the differences you would obviously have a game which is not internally consistent.
"What is The Internet, Alex."
If you got two mutually exclusive viewpoints to codify their viewpoints to a degree you could make a logic game to illustrate the differences you would obviously have a game which is not internally consistent.
"What is The Internet, Alex."
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Ain't nobody here but us turkeys [youtube.com]
posted Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 10:07 PM (#26988)
Another problem with the game?
Cretin thinks that Evolution operates by chance alone, so he wins every time chance alone generates a winning number.
This is just not true. Cretin thinks that Evolution either doesn't operate at all, or only operates by God's say-so, not by chance.
A more accurate portrayal would be that Randy rolls the dice, and Cretin gets to place the dice so that they're facing whatever numbers he wants. And actually, Cretin is deciding Randy's numbers too - Randy just thinks he's randomly rolling the dice.
Cretin thinks that Evolution operates by chance alone, so he wins every time chance alone generates a winning number.
This is just not true. Cretin thinks that Evolution either doesn't operate at all, or only operates by God's say-so, not by chance.
A more accurate portrayal would be that Randy rolls the dice, and Cretin gets to place the dice so that they're facing whatever numbers he wants. And actually, Cretin is deciding Randy's numbers too - Randy just thinks he's randomly rolling the dice.
posted Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 10:50 PM (#26989)
In Response to porcupine8 (#26988):
A more accurate portrayal would be that Randy rolls the dice, and Cretin gets to place the dice so that they're facing whatever numbers he wants...
A more accurate portrayal would be that Randy rolls the dice, and Cretin gets to place the dice so that they're facing whatever numbers he wants...
I agree with your original proposition, but disagree with your application of it (as quoted). Under his system of belief, Cretin does not have any direct control over the outcome; at best he can ask God for a particular result.
The preferable scenario seems to be that Cretin rolls the dice as usual, but believes the outcome is controlled by God (or deity of your choosing).
If Cretin wins the game then he is blessed; if not, then it was the will of God. Randy believes that the result is entirely governed by chance and the law of probabilities. Regardless of who wins neither person will be convinced that they are wrong.
Randy and Cretin can then continue with their lives, taking comfort in the superiority of their convictions.
posted Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 09:06 AM (#27017)
posted Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 12:10 PM (#27023)
In Response to Euan (#27014):
God, a million years for us is like, only one year for you, right?
Thats right.
And, like, a million miles for us is like only one mile for you right?
Right again.
Cool, then can I borrow a buck?
God, a million years for us is like, only one year for you, right?
Thats right.
And, like, a million miles for us is like only one mile for you right?
Right again.
Cool, then can I borrow a buck?
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But do you ever see a person leave a cathedral toting a to-go box?
Coffins don't count.
But do you ever see a person leave a cathedral toting a to-go box?
Coffins don't count.
posted Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 04:34 PM (#27027)
In Response to Dynedain (#27023):
Tsk tsk tsk. You're quoting it all wrong. It goes like this:
MAN: Hey, God. Can I ask you a couple questions?
GOD: Yes, go ahead.
MAN: Okay, you're eternal and all. So a million years for me is like a minute for you, right?
GOD: Well, yes.
MAN: And you are everywhere at once. So a million miles to me is like an inch to you, right?
GOD: Basically, yes.
MAN: Awesome. Can I borrow a penny?
GOD: In a minute.
Tsk tsk tsk. You're quoting it all wrong. It goes like this:
MAN: Hey, God. Can I ask you a couple questions?
GOD: Yes, go ahead.
MAN: Okay, you're eternal and all. So a million years for me is like a minute for you, right?
GOD: Well, yes.
MAN: And you are everywhere at once. So a million miles to me is like an inch to you, right?
GOD: Basically, yes.
MAN: Awesome. Can I borrow a penny?
GOD: In a minute.
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While I find our conversation fascinating, I also find you terrifying, unpredictable, and armed.
While I find our conversation fascinating, I also find you terrifying, unpredictable, and armed.
posted Tuesday, April 26, 2005 - 09:58 PM (#27034)
posted Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 10:40 AM (#27086)
In Response to snipergirl (#27010):
OMFG. It was just a fucking joke, ok?
I find it funny that people who label anyone who believes in evolution as evil deluded sinners, and tend to take the bible so literally that they regard half the minorities under the sun as evil sinners should suddenly take such offence at a statement clearly meant as a joke.
OMFG. It was just a fucking joke, ok?
I find it funny that people who label anyone who believes in evolution as evil deluded sinners, and tend to take the bible so literally that they regard half the minorities under the sun as evil sinners should suddenly take such offence at a statement clearly meant as a joke.
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bunnies...*splat*
bunnies...*splat*
posted Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:25 AM (#27089)
In Response to snipergirl (#27086):
Oh, this is great. Let's see just how low my karma can get, just by taunting someone who doesn't have the guts to post here with any decent arguments or explanations of why they are as thin-skinned and sensitive as they are! Hmm, perhaps that is the reason they are resorting to lurking...
Come on! Hit me again!
Oh, this is great. Let's see just how low my karma can get, just by taunting someone who doesn't have the guts to post here with any decent arguments or explanations of why they are as thin-skinned and sensitive as they are! Hmm, perhaps that is the reason they are resorting to lurking...
Come on! Hit me again!
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bunnies...*splat*
bunnies...*splat*
posted Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 01:24 PM (#27093)
posted Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 06:12 PM (#27101)
Hey Now! I have gone into negative numbers! The sky's the limit! Keep on burning me up I love it!
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Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
posted Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 07:40 PM (#27105)
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